Showing posts with label Abraham Lincoln Collection Agent. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Abraham Lincoln Collection Agent. Show all posts

Thursday, January 22, 2015

Window Envelope Commentary


Envelope History

The envelope. The ubiquitous envelope.  The famous bill-containing window-type envelope.
Americus F. Callahan of Chicago, Illinois, received the first patent for a windowed envelope on June 10, 1902. Originally called the "outlook envelop", the patent initially anticipated using thin rice paper as the transparent material forming the window, though this material has since been replaced by clear plastics. The design has otherwise remained nearly unchanged for 112 years. Now it has been recently judged, albeit erroneously,  a window into a complete panoply of one’s  private credit, or shall we say one’s collection on-goings, not by showing a name-which, of course is allowed, but by showing one of over 4000 collection agencies’ or attorneys’ proprietary,  unknowable and esoteric  identification number .



Unintended consequences

In the federal policing of collection agencies and collection attorneys (over which virtually no one would shed a tear)  , the sometimes arcane and convoluted world of the Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (PL. 95-109), the eleven decade old window envelope has finally been adjudicated a menace to privacy*.

This ruling does not affect the consumer's HIPAA privacy of health insurers' mail--or payments, or current 41 pounds of junk mail each person in the US receives every year (gulp, 100 million trees), but rather creditors’ third party representatives--collectors and lawyers, who attempt U.S.  Mail communication regarding consumer debts.  (Phone is a whooooole ‘nother but equally litigious problem)

Since 1978 the law has been basically a victim of the boiled frog theory. On its face, and on first reading, it appeared fair (the ironic first word in its name) for both consumers--the author was in the business pre-1978 and will attest that the industry  was unrestrained to say the least-- as well as legitimate collection agencies and attorneys—but what a gold mine for the manufacture of predatory legal community members’ fees.

Every time this law evolves via a hyper-sensitive ruling like the one mentioned above-specifically Douglass v. Convergent Outsourcing, 765 F.3d 299 (3d Cir. 2014), it’s another windfall for the legal representatives and their attendant and arbitrary “fees”.  Let’s face it, there is a place for this line of reasoning written into the law: notations such as government agency, important, immediately, now, can not only violate both the letter and the spirit of the law in making a consumer anxious and apt to react not in their best interest or worse—side-stepping the “least sophisticated” consumer’s right to dispute. In the 1970’s that we remember, by firsthand knowledge,  much worse was written on envelopes—thus the congressional thinking was to address this particular problem in the legislation.
However a proprietary and nondescript number appearing on the envelope has not harmed the debtor—nor does the debtor even know he was harmed until, with this ruling, a legal advisor informs him that, yes; he was indeed harmed and by law, could recover $1000.00 for their suffering. Wink, wink, nod, nod. “…You know, now that I think of it, yes, yes, I was harmed by the number ‘172883-182HHG-18-8-3G’, my  neighbors, any the public seeing the letter and my postman all may know that’s a collection agency or legal-type number” –shall we get started and sue?

Would it be wrong in stating the vast majority of suits have swept up legitimate agencies in minor and technical cases such as the above? Maybe. Also, there are probably hundreds of thousands of threats of lawsuits that were settled with the debtor’s legal advisor and never made it to the filing, or court argument stage. One attorney requested $5000.00 from our company, ten years ago for specious violations of the law—where it doesn’t even apply-on a commercial (business to business) case!


Even the consumer is affected by exorbitant legal costs

There have been times when too-precise wording and [mis-] interpretation by the consumer may have been detrimental to their situation. One such example, of many, is when they believe that if they tell the third party collector to cease and desist albeit with no explanation as to why, the collector will simply put their tail between their legs, close the file and go away. The reputable collector will cease;  but for fear of possible lawsuit, and to still protect the balance his client is claiming, he may recommend that his client, the creditor to whom the consumer allegedly owes money, that a lawsuit be instituted—thus causing increased time and expense for all parties, including the court system.


Business Conspiracy

George Bernard Shaw, in a play in 1906, first wrote the phrase, “All businesses are deemed conspiracies against the laity”-a very applicable quote to think about in your own business dealings—whatever they may be.
Is collection, by its definition and purpose more so? It is extremely doubtful-but arguable. Enter “car dealers” (an oft-derided industry) in your favorite search engine.  Not bad—many ads for dealers and deals. Then enter “debt collection.” Quite a Big difference. Debt collection searches yield all the ways a lawsuit or threat thereof will “stop them in their tracks” and assuage the debt. In fact, if the proper word string is typed in, you may get a particular attorney in New York who has made  YouTube videos where he has dubbed in individually, virtually  every collection agency and collection attorney in the metropolitan area (how did he find the time?). So the video says in effect (paraphrasing), “Have you been contacted by [xyz agency] recently? We will protect your rights and bring them to justice for their violations of the FDCPA” Or some such speciousity. 
Be aware that of the hundreds of thousands of lawsuits that have entered against collection agencies in the federal court system since 1978, there have indeed been numerous bad actors in the collection business—as in all businesses, and members of the collection trade association ACA International would be glad to root them out so all are not painted with the same brush. This could happen via an onerous suit or after numerous real violations, or their being dropped by their insurance company or Secretary of State Bonding Division—or in more egregious violations, the state attorney general.


Talkin’ Technicalities but nonetheless Dept.

The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 15 U.S.C. §1692f(8) (“FDCPA”), forbids debt collectors from putting on the envelopes of debt collection letters “any language or symbol, other than the debt collector’s address.”


* In Douglass v. Convergent Outsourcing, 765 F.3d 299 (3d Cir. 2014), the debt collection agency mailed the consumer a collection notice that contained the consumers' name, address, and a sequence of letters and numbers in (some accounts say a) “misaligned” clear plastic window on an envelope and poorly formatted letter, that let a QR Code (barcode) and a bare account number show used by the collection agency to internally track the consumer's collection account.

All of this information, including the internal tracking number, showed through the address window of the envelope. The Third Circuit ruled that the disclosure of the consumer's account number on the face of the debt collector's envelope was an impermissible language or symbol, which violated § 808(8) of the FDCPA.

The court was not technically wrong, only misguided. Keep those windows clean!





Tuesday, April 29, 2014

In 1850, they favored Lincoln's creditors over Lincoln's debtors...


Abraham Lincoln handled many different categories of litigation during his career. Debt-related issues filled the court system during the antebellum period, and the majority of Lincoln’s legal cases consisted of debt collection. In this type of litigation, he represented both creditors and debtors. As plaintiff attorney for creditors, he won the majority of cases because many defendants failed to appear and defaulted. As defendant attorney for debtors, he lost the majority of cases because the legal system favored creditors over debtors. He also handled cases relating to land titles, inheritance, patents, and railroads. *


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Thursday, October 31, 2013

Thursday, August 01, 2013

Don't Accuse Attorney A. Lincoln of not Disbursing Money



To Mrs. Deziah Vance [1]

Mrs. Deziah Vance Springfield,
Madam June 9, 1860

Your letter of June 5th. is received. I have no money collected by me for Mr. Vance, and I had ceased trying to collect any for him long before his death. You speak of my letters to Mr. Vance; and if I remember, they will show that the charge of Mr. Vance's claim here was transferred to Mr. W. H. Herndon. I think his claim was against a man, or men, by the name of Vanmeter. I never keep any body's money, which I collect, an hour longer than I can find a chance to turn it over to him. If you doubt this, get some of the busy bodies who are imposing on you in this matter, to find somebody who will swear he paid me money for Mr. Vance. If there is any such man he can be found.

If, as you say, Mr. Trimble spoke to me, and I gave him no satisfaction, it was because the truth was not satisfactory. Let Mr. Trimble or any one else come here and see the man or men, of whom they or you, think I received money for Mr. Vance, and learn of them how the truth is. I have no papers in my hands, belonging to Mr. Vance. I do not certainly know, but my opinion is that nothing can be got on those old claims, or that old claim of Mr. Vance.
Yours &c


A. LINCOLN



















Annotation

[1]   ALS, owned by William H. Townsend, Lexington, Kentucky. Since Mrs. Vance's letter of June 5 is not in the Lincoln Papers, it is not possible to clarify entirely the matter about which she wrote, but it probably concerned claims similar to those about which Lincoln wrote to her husband, John W. Vance, on July 7, 1844 (q.v., supra). 

Potential Debt Buying by Abe Lincoln


Status Report: 
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To Maria Bullock [1]

Dear Aunt                                                      Springfield, Ills, Jan. 3. 1859

I have recently had two letters from our cousin Charles Carr, [2] in relation to your business. It annoys me to have to say that I can not collect money now. I now believe the quickest way I can get your money is for me to buy the debts of you, as soon as I can get in any money of my own to do it with. I keep some money loaned at ten per cent; and when I can get hold of some, it would be a ready investment for me to just take these debts off your hands; and I shall try to do so. I think it will be better all round than to resort to the law. This does not apply to the small debt of eighty odd dollars, upon which I shall sue and foreclose the mortgage next court.

All well. Yours as ever,


A. LINCOLN
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Annotation

[1]   ALS, IHi.

[2]   Charles D. Carr, an attorney at Lexington, Kentucky, was Mrs. Bullock's nephew. Carr's letters are not extant, and there is no record of Lincoln's purchasing the mortgages

Saturday, October 23, 2010

Abraham Lincoln Collection Agent










Rather than specializing, Lincoln practiced general law, and so we see him taking on both civil and criminal cases, with breaches of contract and patent infringements sharing space with bootlegging, assault, even murder cases. Much of his work concerned debt collection, for which Lincoln was known well beyond Illinois, and these cases provide a unique window on nineteenth-century business. Lincoln also went out on the road twice yearly to try cases in the state’s circuit courts; this edition documents some of these tours in detail.
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The cases represented paint a vivid picture of America in the decades leading up to the Civil War. The nation's surging expansion is reflected in cases over land speculation, property disputes, construction, and, of course, the railroads, whose interests are a consistent theme throughout. Other trials touch on domestic law, the Black Laws, even the California gold rush.
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We thank the University of Virginia Press for the information above.
The Papers of Abraham Lincoln:Legal Documents and Cases
Daniel W. Stowell, EditorSusan Krause, Assistant EditorJohn A. Lupton, Assistant EditorStacy Pratt McDermott, Assistant EditorChristopher A. Schnell, Assistant EditorDennis E. Suttles, Assistant EditorKelley B. Clausing, Research AssociateR. Dan Monroe, NHPRC Editing Fellow